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	<title>Comments on: Notorious Cravings and Anti-Drug Drugs</title>
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		<title>by: Doreen</title>
		<link>http://rational.org/blog/7/#comment-2968</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I stopped smoking 2 years ago for 3 months, with the aid of Wellbutrin - I gained 39 pounds (already fat, then became fatter), so I stopped taking the meds - w/o advise of Doctor - gained another 10 pounds, and started smoking again.  I stopped smoking again on Jan 1st 2007, with no aid, only this is that I have cheated a few times - 4 to be exact - not beating myself up - just needed the release - I think I'm doing better on my own, then if I used a medication aid - you have to really want to quit, to quit successfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped smoking 2 years ago for 3 months, with the aid of Wellbutrin - I gained 39 pounds (already fat, then became fatter), so I stopped taking the meds - w/o advise of Doctor - gained another 10 pounds, and started smoking again.  I stopped smoking again on Jan 1st 2007, with no aid, only this is that I have cheated a few times - 4 to be exact - not beating myself up - just needed the release - I think I&#8217;m doing better on my own, then if I used a medication aid - you have to really want to quit, to quit successfully.
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		<title>by: Thomas M. Medero</title>
		<link>http://rational.org/blog/7/#comment-1641</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, I agree with every fiber of my being; the &quot;Minnesota Model&quot; (12 step programs)  keep you powerless, brainwash you into believing you're &quot;diseased&quot;, and you can NEVER recover, but you MAY be able to stop using for short periods of time (only short periods because you're not counting on yourself, but remaining dependant on someone or something else e.g. groups, 12 step meetings, sponsors, etc.  The breaks in use are not due to a &quot;God&quot;, or a &quot;Power Greater Than Yourself&quot;, or from making amends, or beating yourself up and lowering your sense of self-worth even further by taking a &quot;Moral Inventory&quot; to measure your shortcomings by.  I'll bet my last dollar EVERYONE has these &quot;Moral&quot; shortcomings - otherwise we'd ALL be Perfect Saints. In 51 years, I have'nt found ONE PERSON YET who meets these &quot;moral&quot; standards, yet they're not all drunks or addicts. Being imperfect morally makes us HUMAN, not ADDICTS or DRUNKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree with every fiber of my being; the &#8220;Minnesota Model&#8221; (12 step programs)  keep you powerless, brainwash you into believing you&#8217;re &#8220;diseased&#8221;, and you can NEVER recover, but you MAY be able to stop using for short periods of time (only short periods because you&#8217;re not counting on yourself, but remaining dependant on someone or something else e.g. groups, 12 step meetings, sponsors, etc.  The breaks in use are not due to a &#8220;God&#8221;, or a &#8220;Power Greater Than Yourself&#8221;, or from making amends, or beating yourself up and lowering your sense of self-worth even further by taking a &#8220;Moral Inventory&#8221; to measure your shortcomings by.  I&#8217;ll bet my last dollar EVERYONE has these &#8220;Moral&#8221; shortcomings - otherwise we&#8217;d ALL be Perfect Saints. In 51 years, I have&#8217;nt found ONE PERSON YET who meets these &#8220;moral&#8221; standards, yet they&#8217;re not all drunks or addicts. Being imperfect morally makes us HUMAN, not ADDICTS or DRUNKS!
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		<title>by: Kris</title>
		<link>http://rational.org/blog/7/#comment-283</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, I have been on Naltrexone and Campral for a few weeks now, and have not had the urge to drink.  I am not in counseling, however I really do feel like I need it - not to stop me from drinking - but to help me deal with the issues that are now quickly rising to the surface with sobriety.  Why am I so bored by my family, etc...so, from my perspective, even though the drugs do work nicely by themselves, I need support in dealing with the aftermath.

&lt;em&gt;Kris,&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Through the lens of AVRT®, you are in the grip of addiction, quite vulnerable to downfalls, fearful of your bodily desires, emotionally dependent, suffering from the addicto-depressive condition, unable to recognize the preludes to self-intoxication, including your view of “issues.” You are bored with your family because its members appear insignificant in the context of your open-ended addiction. Your fear of life’s challenges suggests you have long exposure to recovery groups creating a sense of personal inadequacy with the need for supervision. Run through the &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://rational.org/html_public_area/course_avrt.html &quot;&gt;The Crash Course on AVRT®&lt;/a&gt; and see if that gives you a sense of stability or hope. If so, consider AVRT-based recovery through &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;https://rational.org/subscribe/jo01.php &quot;&gt;website subscription&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.rational.org/pdf_files/Course.pdf&quot;&gt;AVRT: The Course.
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&lt;em&gt;Jack Trimpey  &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have been on Naltrexone and Campral for a few weeks now, and have not had the urge to drink.  I am not in counseling, however I really do feel like I need it - not to stop me from drinking - but to help me deal with the issues that are now quickly rising to the surface with sobriety.  Why am I so bored by my family, etc&#8230;so, from my perspective, even though the drugs do work nicely by themselves, I need support in dealing with the aftermath.</p>
<p><em>Kris,</em></p>
<p><em>Through the lens of AVRT®, you are in the grip of addiction, quite vulnerable to downfalls, fearful of your bodily desires, emotionally dependent, suffering from the addicto-depressive condition, unable to recognize the preludes to self-intoxication, including your view of “issues.” You are bored with your family because its members appear insignificant in the context of your open-ended addiction. Your fear of life’s challenges suggests you have long exposure to recovery groups creating a sense of personal inadequacy with the need for supervision. Run through the <a target="_blank" href="http://rational.org/html_public_area/course_avrt.html ">The Crash Course on AVRT®</a> and see if that gives you a sense of stability or hope. If so, consider AVRT-based recovery through <a target="_blank" href="https://rational.org/subscribe/jo01.php ">website subscription</a> or <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rational.org/pdf_files/Course.pdf">AVRT: The Course.<br />
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<p><em>Jack Trimpey  </em>
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		<title>by: Flowergirrl</title>
		<link>http://rational.org/blog/7/#comment-159</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I took Wellbutrin, the same drug as Zyban, with no effect at all on my smoking and drinking behavior.  I doubt very seriously that any of these drugs are good for much more than enriching pharmaceutical companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took Wellbutrin, the same drug as Zyban, with no effect at all on my smoking and drinking behavior.  I doubt very seriously that any of these drugs are good for much more than enriching pharmaceutical companies.
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		<title>by: dr.bomb</title>
		<link>http://rational.org/blog/7/#comment-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What I find funny in light of how I quit smoking all by myself is the nonsense of &quot;nicotine replacement&quot;. If it truly were a replacement for nicotine then what is nicotine being replaced with? MORE nicotine? So it's NOT a replacement! What a FRAUD!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find funny in light of how I quit smoking all by myself is the nonsense of &#8220;nicotine replacement&#8221;. If it truly were a replacement for nicotine then what is nicotine being replaced with? MORE nicotine? So it&#8217;s NOT a replacement! What a FRAUD!</p>
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